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heathrow83829 10 hours ago [-]
We've seen this before. google ceo also met with boos about AI at a commencement.
It's simple: AI threatens jobs/careers and paychecks. And, we've built an entire society that requires you to have a paycheck just to live. So, of course people are going to boo AI.
halJordan 3 hours ago [-]
This is the same argument that has been made at every Industrial Revolution. And not even industrial revolutions, just jumps in productivity.
When the jobs went offshore, all the Republicans and union democrats made this argument. And now Trump is supposedly an asshole for reshoring, bc a) those jobs that were lost are now shit jobs, and b) the productivity we lose reshoring isn't worth it.
You see the jobs leaving the same way republicans saw jobs leaving
shomp 10 hours ago [-]
The kids are alright
10 hours ago [-]
bluefirebrand 10 hours ago [-]
The sheer, naked arrogance of these execs, man
They're so used to all of their sycophants around them clapping like seals at everything they say, they can't even begin to understand why other people wouldn't like what they're pushing
We can't be rid of them soon enough
jollyllama 10 hours ago [-]
He would have been dumbstruck if there hadn't been two or three similar headlines in the last two weeks. He knew this would happen and he had his canned snarky retort ready.
ryandrake 9 hours ago [-]
The smug grins on all their faces is what gets me. They are absolutely giddy at the opportunity to enrich themselves at everyone else’s expense, and they are so insular and protected from us that they feel no danger outwardly admitting it.
bluefirebrand 6 hours ago [-]
"You can hear me now or pay me later."
Stinks of "let them eat cake"
It's an extremely similar sort of arrogance
onetokeoverthe 9 hours ago [-]
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irishcoffee 10 hours ago [-]
If you want the other perspective (I don't agree with what I'm about to say) just:
s/execs/kids
happytoexplain 9 hours ago [-]
We know the other perspective.
bluefirebrand 9 hours ago [-]
Anyone who seriously would take the side of a corporate exec sneering at high school students is someone seriously not worth giving even a tiny bit of attention to
The sooner that scum like that can be recognized and shunned from society, the better
Somehow one of the most fascinating aspects of LLMs is that they were able to basically both reveal corporate capitalism as primarily being about virtualized feudalism, and also casually ruin the entire world, just by their ability to generate decently grammatically correct English.
Why is it that all of these bigheaded corpo type people react to "anti-AI" sentiments with this strongman crap?
Are they surprised that people, especially young people who are going to head into the world to try to make their way, are NOT supportive of the idea they'll just be eternal slaves, or even unemployed nuisances, to feudal lords?
The whole fucking point of this system is for it to support people. "They" need to remember that or they're going to be reminded of it. Capitalism was cool as an evolutionary step but it's pretty fucking clear we're going to need another innovation here sometime soon.
pixel_popping 9 hours ago [-]
Do you have any other concrete idea than Capitalism? (Not rage-bait, genuinely interested) and how it would work in practice.
breakpointalpha 8 hours ago [-]
Still Capitalism, but the Nordic Model.
High taxes on the wealthy, high social spending for all, lower business regulations, lower wealth inequality, and high labor market flexibility.
Honestly there are so many levers we could pull off within Capitalism to both meaningfully improve the lives of people while keeping together all the things that are genuinely good about it (such as the central thesis of rewarding risk and innovation).
- better safety nets paid through higher taxes and closing down loopholes (such as buybacks)
- stronger regulatory enforcement to reduce the power of monopolies / monopsonies
- stricter rules around tax-payer investments / subsidies into companies (sure SpaceX gets to have billions to shore up our competitiveness but there must be a mechanism for the tax payer to have board representation)
etc. etc.
The list goes on. Honestly it doesn't take a lot (besides political will and escaping the capture of Citizens United) to move the needle so that the median income or bottom 10th percentile lifestyle meaningfully improves while we no longer have wealth horded to the level of having centibillionaires.
It does require a government that operates with much less corruption than we have, so it is more idealistic than not, but very easy to imagine.
zzzeek 9 hours ago [-]
> Capitalism was cool as an evolutionary step but it's pretty fucking clear we're going to need another innovation here sometime soon.
Well your other options are Marxism or Star Trek replicators. I'd choose the latter.
gopher_space 8 hours ago [-]
Would you vote for my "Social Democracy with Capitalism in a Sandbox" platform?
zzzeek 8 hours ago [-]
totally, let's go Norway!
the_real_cher 9 hours ago [-]
It's so insane how we've built society so that you desperately need a job to handle ALL aspects of your life, yet companies are trying to get rid of labor as much as possible.
AI is an amazing tool but people hate it because it's a threat to how our ridiculous society is structured.
ChrisArchitect 6 hours ago [-]
Related:
The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam
It's simple: AI threatens jobs/careers and paychecks. And, we've built an entire society that requires you to have a paycheck just to live. So, of course people are going to boo AI.
When the jobs went offshore, all the Republicans and union democrats made this argument. And now Trump is supposedly an asshole for reshoring, bc a) those jobs that were lost are now shit jobs, and b) the productivity we lose reshoring isn't worth it.
You see the jobs leaving the same way republicans saw jobs leaving
They're so used to all of their sycophants around them clapping like seals at everything they say, they can't even begin to understand why other people wouldn't like what they're pushing
We can't be rid of them soon enough
Stinks of "let them eat cake"
It's an extremely similar sort of arrogance
s/execs/kids
The sooner that scum like that can be recognized and shunned from society, the better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCHH5D74Fs
Why is it that all of these bigheaded corpo type people react to "anti-AI" sentiments with this strongman crap?
Are they surprised that people, especially young people who are going to head into the world to try to make their way, are NOT supportive of the idea they'll just be eternal slaves, or even unemployed nuisances, to feudal lords?
The whole fucking point of this system is for it to support people. "They" need to remember that or they're going to be reminded of it. Capitalism was cool as an evolutionary step but it's pretty fucking clear we're going to need another innovation here sometime soon.
High taxes on the wealthy, high social spending for all, lower business regulations, lower wealth inequality, and high labor market flexibility.
https://maseconomics.com/nordic-model-economics-high-taxes-g...
- better safety nets paid through higher taxes and closing down loopholes (such as buybacks)
- stronger regulatory enforcement to reduce the power of monopolies / monopsonies
- stricter rules around tax-payer investments / subsidies into companies (sure SpaceX gets to have billions to shore up our competitiveness but there must be a mechanism for the tax payer to have board representation)
etc. etc.
The list goes on. Honestly it doesn't take a lot (besides political will and escaping the capture of Citizens United) to move the needle so that the median income or bottom 10th percentile lifestyle meaningfully improves while we no longer have wealth horded to the level of having centibillionaires.
It does require a government that operates with much less corruption than we have, so it is more idealistic than not, but very easy to imagine.
Well your other options are Marxism or Star Trek replicators. I'd choose the latter.
The American Rebellion Against AI Is Gaining Steam
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48188310
Eric Schmidt booed at University of Arizona after praising AI
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48172419
Students boo commencement speaker after she calls AI next industrial revolution
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48096674
Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48177107
An AI Hate Wave Is Here
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48173318